By the way, those weren't lawyer BS things I linked, they're law-of-the-land links. I refuse to take or share copies of software, music, movies, e-books, or anything else that is copyrighted and made for sale by its creator, even if it's lining the pockets of rich folks who would eliminate my job in order to pay the note on their yachts. The part that riles me is a personal rant, with which you are free to disagree. The big mechanical contractor or distributor should too. Plus, if they ARE giving it away to big important customers but not to small-time consultants like me, they need a comeuppance which I'd be happy to provide. If you've sized stuff with HAP, you're aware that it's just a click of the mouse to turn your results into a bill of Carrier product model numbers. Search the term "private equity" along with my handle.Ĭarrier and Trane should both be giving their software away, it's a tool with which to specify their products.
Look up my rants against the corporate profit machines in other forums here.
RE: HAP 317069 (Mechanical) 6 Apr 13 10:51ĬhasBean1 and Drazen, I'm right there with you on the premise but not that it's just lawyer BS. That is why I am avoiding them more and more. They want to present it as generic engineering tool, and use it as sales improvement tool at the same time. Of course, in that case HAP would lose much of credibility as "neutral" engineering tool, and that is what they do not want. They should be either distribute it for free or sell it under market conditions, or limit it to OEM tool, which sizes their products only. On the other hand I hear about cases where they are giving it for free to those who purchase or specify enough of their products.
Instead of filing court case for which I have little time and energy, I complained to their main European office, and they, instead of resolving the issue, decided to send me free extension. Several years ago I purchased HAP, but the next year their distributor wanted to triple yearly maintenance fee though we had fixed conditions agreed.
The situation is far away from black and white. Weig's posts, I will raise my hand to part of Chas' bitterness.
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